I really like this next interview because of how everything came together for it.  My guest is Joël Malm, the older brother of Jonathan Malm who I also interviewed for #30in30.  The crazy thing is, I met Joël not through his brother but a friend of mine who connected us.  Come to find out, Joël lives 5 minutes from my house.

Joël has a very unique business I think you will find pretty awesome.

You can pre-order his new book HERE


Justin Trapp

Founder at Ministry Pass
Husband to Tisha, Father to Shiloh and founder of Ministry Pass.
Justin Trapp