If you have been around the church world long enough you probably recognize my next guest.  Pastor Derwin L. Gray is the founding and lead pastor of Transformation Church.  He also played in the NFL for the Indianapolis Colts and he also starred in some well known “Evangelism Linebacker” videos several years ago.

He is an author who just released a fantastic book called, Limitless Life.  I loved the book and my conversation with him.

Don’t forget to check out his new book:


Justin Trapp

Founder at Ministry Pass
Husband to Tisha, Father to Shiloh and founder of Ministry Pass.
Justin Trapp